002 EYL - Jeff May Jr
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Mentor: [00:00:00] when I come into a room.
Just because I am a speaker don't mean I'm the speaker. Just because I am a speaker does not mean I am the speaker. You should be able to come into a space and understand, number one, your gift will make room for you. You don't have to make room for your gift. [00:01:00] Jeff May, JR is a nationally recognized motivational speaker, philanthropist and community activist who has dedicated his life to inspiring transformation with the simple and powerful belief. If you want different, do different.
J.E. Harrison: You are the change from mentoring court involved youth. To leading one of the largest African American museums in the us, Jeff brings an authentic, faith rooted message that ignites purpose and lasting impact. I am excited to have one of my favorite mentors joining me today on the Elevate Your Life podcast.
Mr. Jeff May, Jr. Welcome.
Mentor: What's good. Je thanks so much for having me on my show this afternoon. We appreciate you being here with me. This was meant to be, we went through a lot to get here. And now we are here. So I'm just [00:02:00] honored to be a part of this conversation. I'm even more honored to be a part of your podcast super proud of you and the journey and the things that you have done, because it has not come for free.
Everything is earned. So I'm super proud of you, love you. Just excited to be a part of a small part of your journey. So glad to be here.
J.E. Harrison: Listen, see, there you go. Already being a phenomenal. Mentor. And so that's one of the reasons I really wanted to have you on the show. I am doing this season and I'm only inviting people that have had significant impact in my life. And so you are definitely one of those people that's at the top of the list.
But I wanna start, and I just wanna ask you. While I was preparing for the podcast, I had to realize that it's been quite some time now that we've initially met. I'm, I know you are a little older than me, but I wanted to ask you, I [00:03:00] wanted to ask you, do you remember how we initially met?
Mentor: Oh wow. It had to be around, you know what? It could have been either one or two places. It could have been either. In the Virginia Community College system because I know you were working for one of the community colleges out there. Or it could have been somewhere in church because it's just, how we do in the pews.
This is how we do. So I want to say it was it was Virginia and I'm trying to remember the name of the college I was working with Virginia Western Community College. And I want to say you were at, help me Out. You were at which community college was that?
It was where.
J.E. Harrison: Virginia
Mentor: Central Virginia Community College.
I remember that. I remember. I remember. I remember. Yeah. It wasn't that long ago. Don't play me. It wasn't that long ago.
J.E. Harrison: it was like, so I was a part-time communications coordinator, I believe is what I was doing at the time. And so we had this [00:04:00] event for all the community colleges and so they had you to come as one of the speakers. And I just remember sitting in the audience listening to just how engaging.
Powerful, entertaining, and a knowledgeable speaker that you were, and I was like. I've gotta get connected to this guy, purpose pulls on purpose. So when you come in contact with somebody, when you meet somebody, and there's just this synergy and this connectedness.
And one thing about me, if I meet somebody and I'm like, I need to know this person. I will go get to know that person and I'm not like, Hey, how are you? Enjoyed your conversation. And so I think the way it happened was that I just came up to, you just told you how much I enjoyed the speech and told you that I am also an inspiring speaker and if you would be open to being one of my mentors.
And
Mentor: And I typically, and I, and je I typically tell that story when people tell me they know you and they say, yeah, she's awesome and she's done [00:05:00] this and that. And I'm excited to be able to say yes, she's always wanted to do that. You know what I mean? It's always been a desire of yours to do what you're doing now.
And the fact that you will, that to happen, you know what I mean? You just didn't talk about it. You just didn't say I said a couple prayers and hoped it happened, but you really put the work in to making this happen, to building this brand that so many people are affected by. But I do remember that you said, what advice do you have?
How can you put me on, what do I need to do? How do I create this website? And all these years later, you not only have done it for yourself, but I think the real testimony and blessing is that you help other people do it too. So you created space at the table so everybody can eat. And I'm just, again just impressed and so motivated. When I see you on social media or I see something that you put out, or I get the newsletter and I'm like, yo, this. This came from a desire to want to do what you [00:06:00] knew you were born to do and look at you.
J.E. Harrison: Listen, you trying to make me tear up today ah, You said you set a very powerful blueprint and you gave me space to be mentored by you. You gave me space, you gave me the opportunity to be vulnerable. And so it's interesting because our mentorship has definitely evolved over the years from you guiding me on how to be an amazing speaker to honestly you guiding me how to be great at life and leadership.
Mentor: Wow. That's a.
J.E. Harrison: Yeah, because when I think about it, since we initially met each other in Virginia, every role that I've had since then, you have either come to speak or you've really been that person that would send me a text or a call without knowing anything that was going on when I was about to crash out and lose it.
Mentor: Yeah.
J.E. Harrison: And you would just. Just know to text or know to call. And to me that speaks volumes [00:07:00] to alignment and discernment. Which kind of leads me into my first question, how are people, especially people of faith, how are they able to identify when someone has the skillset, the ability, the integrity and character to ask them to be their mentor or to come under them in that way?
Mentor: I think it's humility. It starts with humility. Low is the way, and you know the way up is down. So if you're humble enough to know that you were in that position once. And what did you need someone to do for you? I. You know what I mean? Did you need someone to put you on or did you need someone to put up that glass ceiling or say No, because I earned it?
You gotta earn it too. What you got was freely given. So it is incumbent upon you, it is commanded of you to freely give. So the same way you got it is the same way. You ought to give it. I feel like it's a grace and mercy concept, right? That's one of the things, [00:08:00] forgiveness and giving people grace. It doesn't come easy, but when you begin to think about how much grace you done used up, you think about your tab of mercy, you think about how many people have had to be patient with you and how many people stood in the gap for you, and you look down and you see the shoulders you're standing on.
How dare you? Not share your resources. How dare you not share the knowledge because you didn't get to where you need to be all by yourself. And certainly if you don't share it, you become weighted down. So you can't elevate if you don't motivate, inspire, and give, you can keep it. I give you that one. Saw your face, you wrote it down.
You can use it.
J.E. Harrison: You know me very well, mentor because I'm like, listen, you dropping gyms over here.
Mentor: You can use it. It is yours.
J.E. Harrison: Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. So let me ask you this. What does transformational mentorship look like to you and how was it different [00:09:00] from simply giving advice?
Mentor: it's vulnerability and I think you spoke to it before. It has everything to do with being transparent, being honest and being open. A lot of the conversations you all you and I have had throughout the years have been very honest ones. They involve saying things like Me Too.
I was there too. You know what I mean? Give yourself grace. Here's my mistake, right? I think transparency comes with an ability for show and tell. If I don't show you my scars, then you won't know that it's possible for you to heal. So I think being able to be in a position where you can share with someone those things that you don't wanna talk about.
Those things that are embarrassing, those things that are hard for you to even accept and own, being able to really kinda open up the curtain and let someone see your journey. The very ugly journey, the very uncomfortable journey the very embarrassing journey. Sometimes I. I think that's transformational mentorship, right?
Because you can't lead a person or help, open up a way for a person if you're not gonna [00:10:00] be honest with who you are and where you are. So for me, I think transparency and honesty really are key foundations in that.
J.E. Harrison: that's really good because I was also thinking about even in the process of launching this podcast, we live in such a. Performance based culture, and so I had to deal with what does it look like if the metrics doesn't meet the mission.
Because we're always trying to do something, especially if people, as faith, people of faith, we're always trying to step out and do what God said and do what God called us to do.
But unfortunately, 'cause of the culture that we live in, sometimes the metrics doesn't always meet the mission. So how do you stay motivated? How do you stay encouraged? How do you continue to do these amazing. Keynotes and mentor these youth when it might not always be publicized, it might not always go viral.
How do you continue to go forward in that?
Mentor: Sure, because my [00:11:00] ministry is not predicated on likes analytics. I. Social media, my ministry is what I do when I get up. It's what I do when nobody's watching. It's what I do and what I think about when there are no, lives going or no stories being posted. You have to live this and breathe this and be this.
I think social media our phones, cameras, photographers, they only capture the byproduct of the work that no one sees. You gotta be grinding, you gotta be thinking about your craft, thinking about your ministry, thinking about your purpose. How do I make it better? And realizing that, gifts are just a gift, but you gotta work it to perfect it, right?
It takes work to perfect anything. So that work that you put in, a lot of people won't see that. They'll just see the product, right? And some people do it for the, like some people do it for the numbers. And that's a very empty, that's a very empty product. I'm sitting here today because there were some [00:12:00] times where I didn't feel it or I was in pain, or I was emotionally going through something, personally going through something, and I still reached out.
I still sent that text message, right? I still picked up the phone when we were talking. That's why we're sitting here today. Not because you saw something on social media and it looked good, or I posted the lifestyle that I wanted people to believe, but because I was honest with you. And said, I'm tired, but I'll still keep going.
I'm hurt. I'll still keep going. I feel discouraged, but I'll still keep going and you can too. So for me, you know what keeps me going is the fact that this is a lifestyle. This is a ministry. This is a purpose. This is what I do, and if this is the last day I'm doing it. Am I proud at the end of the day about the product I put out.
J.E. Harrison: Yeah. That's so good. That is imperative because truth be told, you are the only individual that's going to be. With you 24 7. you have [00:13:00] to. Love who you are when no one else is around, and you absolutely cannot live your life for likes.
Mentor: Can't do it.
J.E. Harrison: That's a very empty life if you're just living it to for the next so I, that's one of the things that I really admire about you because of the longevity of our relationship.
I've seen you go through some different things in life. You've seen me go through some different things in life, but I've always seen you show up. I've always seen you re remain the same, operate with integrity and character, and that speaks volumes that speaks to me greater than any viral video post or anything else.
Yeah, totally agree. Since you are such an amazing mentor, my question is, who has mentored you and how has their presence shaped the person that you are today?
Mentor: man. For me it, it goes back to teachers. It goes back to people who gave me correction. People who stopped me, didn't know me, [00:14:00] but saw that I was not, I. Living according to my purpose. You know what I mean? There were people who just had to give me some correction, and we used to live in a time where you could correct people, you could check 'em, and it'd be good, it'd actually be warranted.
You'd be grateful to get it. We don't live in that time now. Probably one of the best mentors that I've ever had was the late judge Slee Ware, who was a judge in Roanoke, Virginia. started out an attorney and worked his way through the court system and became a court involved youth judge, but also then became one of the district judge leaders in that area, one of the only African Americans in that area to do so. and for me, he never lost his common touch. Never lost his common touch. And he didn't put on any, HES, he didn't pretend he didn't mince words. He said what he said and he stood 10 toes on it. Even though he had one foot. It's a long story. He stood at least five on it. I [00:15:00] think for him, yeah, for him, he was he took it upon himself to be very authentic with himself.
He didn't wanna walk around fake, he didn't wanna walk around. put on any heirs. He didn't pretend. And for me, no matter how influential he got, how big he got, he never forgot where he was from. He never forgot who he was. He never forgot why he was doing it. He would always encourage me to keep the main thing, and he would never hesitate to call me out.
If I was, not moving the right way, if I wasn't thinking the right way, if, I could have done something better. He was the first person to call and tell me, and then hung up before I could give an answer. You know what I mean? And he had that place in that space in my life because I loved and trusted him so much.
So he passed away, I think last year. And for me his legacy, it went. Further than just the ceremony that they had for him. It really spoke to the [00:16:00] lives that he impacted and the people that you didn't even know he had impacted. One of our last conversations we had was via text message and I was just checking on him and he kept telling me, just keep pressing.
I see what you're doing. God is good. I love you. Keep going. And every now and then I look at that text message and it keeps me. in the right frame of mind and to know that this man who could have retired a long time ago, who could have set back and, kinda rested on his shield was always after the next thing.
That's one of the best mentors I have in my life. And even though he's no longer living, he lives on in me. So I think that's one of the best ways to really. Measure your impact, right? Can you really impact people and not be around them and not hear from you often, but can they really influence what you do?
Do you think about them? What would they say? How would they move? That's real impact.
J.E. Harrison: Absolutely. There was something that [00:17:00] you mentioned how you would give him a call and he would say what he meant to say and hang off the phone. And then you also said, 'cause that was based on, trust and relationship and connection. And that is extremely important when you're dealing with a mentor mentee relationship.
Yeah, you could check me. You could call me and be like, Jay you were wrong for that or that status. You need to take that down, because you need people in your life that you trust enough that can call you out. And unfortunately, we live in a culture now when no one wants to be called out.
No one wants to be corrected. No one wants to be told that wasn't the best decision. That wasn't a wise decision, and how you can't have a microscopic view of how you feel and how you wanna respond. Today, you have to look at things from a telescopic point of view to say long term, what is this gonna, how is this gonna impact my brand, my leadership, my reputation, my name?
Mentor: [00:18:00] Yeah. it's the expectation you have for yourself. You know what I mean? Do you want longevity or do you want the satisfaction of Right now, and right now, I can tell you, you're right, right now I can say that's the best outfit. Your face is beat. All that stuff.
I can give you all the compliments in the moment. But they're fleeting. And if I don't plant some seeds or give you some encouragement or tell you about something that's going to help you 10 years from now, five years from now even, right? If I can't give you something that you can finesse and rework and then give to somebody else, what am I really doing?
Are we really having a conversation? And I think those are the people. I think you begin to really look at squinty eyed. And you kinda say I don't know if I need to be around you. I don't know if you need to have a lot of my time, because if you're not gonna be intentional with our conversations with what you tell me, and sometimes that means you tell me some things that just straight up piss me off or that don't agree with me in the moment.
But when I go back and think about it, I have to call [00:19:00] you and say, you know what? You were right. You are right. And thank you for being honest with me. Thank you for keeping a hundred with me. Thank you for keeping it real with me. And I think that's what we're after. That's really what we're after. We don't really like it initially, but that's really what we're after 'cause that's what we can use.
J.E. Harrison: For sure. So I have found that leadership demands us to keep learning, but life requires us to keep coming. So what are some tools, some practices, some disciplines that you use that help you to continue to become, to evolve?
Mentor: I challenge myself. I lean into the difficult, I lean into the difficult. Now I can give you a whole spiritual road. I can tell you about, fasting and praying and scriptures to read, and at the same time, let's get down to it, right? Let's keep it real. Let's go where we are. Lean into the difficult moments, right?
Choose your own hard. For me in life, I choose my own hard. So what I mean by that is it's hard to give up [00:20:00] and live with those consequences. And it's also hard to do things that you've never done before, and it's hard to navigate what comes with that. But you have to choose your own hard. Do you wanna live with regret or do you wanna live with knowing that the work you put in brought you to this point?
So for me, choosing my own heart is initially. You know the route that I go, also leaning into those difficult moments, whether it be conversations that you needed to have with family, whether it be hard conversations you got to have with people around you, hard conversations and things you got to have with yourself.
Things that you need to explore in therapy. Oh yeah, you got to lean into the hard, because it's easy to pray it away. It's easy to shout it away. It's easy to cry it away, drink it away, whatever that distraction mechanism may be. But until you face it head on and stare at it and be okay in that silence, that pregnant pause then you're really not leaning into the difficult moment.
So you have to lean into the difficult, [00:21:00] and another thing that I try to do is read everything. I try to read as much as I can, right? Because I think if you stretch your thinking and your mindset in different ways, you will surprise yourself. You'll have more to say. And as a speaker, I realized that you can't pour from an empty cup. How do speakers fill their cups? How do they step into rooms and just kinda captivate an audience for 50 minutes to an hour with no preparation? They do have preparation. They read, they study things, right? They think about thoughts. They have conversations, and most of all, I listen. I sit in silence, like when I come into a room.
Just because I am a speaker don't mean I'm the speaker. Just because I am a speaker does not mean I am the speaker. You should be able to come into a space and understand, number one, your gift will make room for you. You don't have to make room for your gift. Number two, there's a lot of wisdom in silence.[00:22:00]
And then if you embrace that silence and you ingest that silence, you ingest that wisdom, then you're able to regurgitate something that's really beautiful. But it starts with you sitting in silence, being humble enough to be your own person, being secure in your own gift and calling to know that you don't have to be the center of attention in a room.
Give your attention to the room. Don't be the center of attention in the room.
J.E. Harrison: That was so good. You know I'm taking that one. So you saw me over
Mentor: I know, and when I see it, when I see the social media post, I'm just gonna be like, like that's a great thought. That was innovative.
J.E. Harrison: Phenomenal. Yes. Yes. But no, I think that was a perfect segue into talking a little bit more about how you show up as a speaker. I know I alluded to it earlier when I said, you absolute, powerful, engaging entertainment, phenomenal speaker. So as we pivot into that direction, [00:23:00] as someone who speaks on national stages.
What did it take for you to first find your voice and truly own it?
Mentor: You know, I've always had access to my voice, but I had to be comfortable with it. So when people say, how did you find your voice? You have to listen again. It starts with listening, and you have to be okay with how that sounds. Did I sound like everybody I grew up with? Nope. Did I sound like my favorite preacher?
No. Did I sound like the people I thought that were just phenomenal? No, I sounded like me. And then I had to really critique and understand what that was, right? And then when I realized that was a very unique brand, oh, I was on then. Like I understood, now I have something that I can push, I can promote because it doesn't sound like anybody else.
And when you see a person who's very comfortable with themselves, I. They're okay with the sound in their voice. They're okay with how they think they're okay with that self-thought. And that self-talk. They can look [00:24:00] themselves in the mirror and not put themselves down because they love who they are.
And you also understand, I have to use my skill sets. What do I have? A lot of times we look at ourselves deficit base. What don't we have as a speaker? I'm not the most articulate and my words don't flow and I'm not as creative. I'm not as charismatic. But what do you have? What do you have that you can leverage, that you can really lean into that nobody else in the world can do?
And I remember when you and I were talking, you were trying to figure out what was your brand. What was your umbrella? Is it, am I gonna be, am I gonna be this preacher? Am I gonna be this, motivator? Am I gonna be this businesswoman? Am I gonna put everything under the umbrella?
And, essentially I think we, we ended up saying, why put yourself in a box? Why not do all of it?
J.E. Harrison: Yep.
Mentor: Why not do all of it? Why not have a brand that uplifts, that empowers, that motivates that, [00:25:00] teaches. And that's what people want, right? And we understand the ministry is meeting needs. So what do the people need and what have I been given to meet that need?
That's your calling.
J.E. Harrison: I so vividly remember that conversation because I was torn, because my brand initially started off as being this great young female preacher, right? And so it was like, okay, so am I abandoning that? Aspect of who I am to step into this and to build this. And you really helped me to realize I don't have to choose, I get to be all of them because God created me to be all of them.
in this space and in this time, everybody wants to put you, what's your niche? My niche is what God has gifted me with. That's my niche. So whatever God has gifted. It is how I am going to show up. And so I think that is important for people to realize you don't have to separate who you are.
Just be who you are in its totality and allow God to [00:26:00] use it. Allow God to anoint it, allow God to give you favor, and to open all the doors that he desires to open in your life. No, that was a very pivotal conversation that you and I had.
Mentor: And I remember it was a all of a, it was a matter of being authentic or performative because the people that we pattern ourselves after are really performative. Growing up in church culture, it's performative. I've been doing it a long time, right? And I realized that it really was transformative when I transformed my mind, my way of thinking about what I offer and put forth, right?
And if it didn't hit the check box marks for the people that I thought mattered, that means I was onto something. Because I now had something that people just could not deny. Yo, we need that. That's authentic, that's real. That's not cookie cutter. Don't be put in a box. Don't put your gift and your greatness and your beauty and all the [00:27:00] things that come with you, your uniqueness in a box.
It doesn't belong in a box. It belongs in as many areas as we can get it. And when you think about taking, that love or that word or that gospel out in in, in the world, like you literally have to move out of where you're comfortable. And you have to leave the confines of what your comfort zones are, right?
Not everybody's ready to do that. It's easy to preach to the house, but to take it out where you don't know if you're gonna be received or you have to switch up your delivery. And you have to be one person to this people and one person to this person, but still keep it, the way it needs to be.
That takes a skillset, that takes a calling, that takes an anointing. Everybody can't do that. People can perform but people can't make it happen. it's very few of us that can really get into those spaces and just be who we are. 'cause I'm not concerned about your opinion of me because your opinion of me didn't [00:28:00] get me here and it's certainly not gonna keep me here.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you can watch me if you want to actually here, you can record. You know what I mean? That's just, that that's my thought process behind it. Once I got more comfortable with myself my gift became that much more manageable. And there were no limits to it then.
So then everybody wanted it, right? National stages. It went from local to regional to now national, and not because I've tried to be somebody else, but because I've specialized in being myself, and that is a unique niche, right? That's the unique niche. That's the thing. Nobody else can duplicate and that there is something that people want and they will call for it every time and pay top dollar for it too.
For sure.
J.E. Harrison: Yeah.
Mentor: They will.
J.E. Harrison: Okay. That's enough. All right. No, that was so powerful. I specialize in being myself, [00:29:00] and that is a unique niche. Mentor, I'm telling you all over, social media is going okay.
Mentor: that's, you want 'em tell share and book us. That's what they need to do share and book. Because that's what we want. But it's all been a blessing. Je it's all been, I'm really blessed to be in a position I'm in every day, and I think that's why I attack every day.
The way I attack it is because I don't have to be here, I, I don't have to be given this opportunity for me. I've learned in my life more now than ever. That pressure is a privilege, and if you feel great pressure, that is great privilege. Keep going, and you have a choice. You can either keep going or you can crumble under it.
Again, choose your heart. It's harder for me to live with myself knowing that I did not do what I knew I could do, and that I settled for giving up, or I settled for quitting, or I settled for [00:30:00] falling short. And even if you fall, get up and keep going. Pressure is a privilege. Stand up to it. Stand up to it.
Stand up to it. Don't shy away from it. Lean into it. Trust me, you'll be better after.
J.E. Harrison: Yeah, listen, I know this listening audience is being elevated because even though I have direct access to you, I am being elevated even more so if someone feels unseen or unsupported in their growth. What's three pieces of advice you would offer to invite wise mentorship into their life?
Mentor: Number one, see yourself, because again, you said, felt, seen and acknowledged or heard, or number one, you have to see yourself and you have to see yourself the way God sees you. And that's 10 times better than you actually see yourself or anyone else could ever see you. Number two, I think you need to get out of your comfort zone.
[00:31:00] In everything you do, whether it be the places you hang out, the people you're around, the social mixers, you go to do something different. Do something different, get uncomfortable, right? And then number three, seek out mentorship from people that you aspire to be. Not that you want to be them, but the life that they live or the impact that they have, if that resonates with you, then that's a candidate for mentorship right there, right?
That's a good mentor to connect yourself with. So you have to connect with people you resonate with, not that you agree with. It's the difference. I can agree with you and we can be on the same level. Something about you could resonate with me and inspire me and motivate me, and it seems so far away from where I am.
That's your mentor. And go ask them to be your mentor. 'cause closed mouths don't get fed. So see [00:32:00] yourself do different, be uncomfortable, right? And then actively, intentionally seek mentorship.
J.E. Harrison: Awesome, wonderful advice. One of my favorite mentors, I can't call you what I normally call you on the podcast. Ain't nobody get mad.
Mentor: They will, but we'll let
J.E. Harrison: So one of
Mentor: we'll put
J.E. Harrison: so this.
Mentor: I got the
J.E. Harrison: You know what I'm saying? That's okay.
Mentor: I got the
J.E. Harrison: You do have a, you got tons of receipts. Okay. So I'm gonna ask you five rapid fire questions. Okay.
Mentor: I don't, I can't think about the answers. I just gotta give them,
J.E. Harrison: You got it. Rapid fire.
Mentor: that's dangerous. Okay.
J.E. Harrison: Not too much thought.
All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. First question, what's one habit that has changed your life?
Mentor: Uh, Reading,
J.E. Harrison: [00:33:00] Favorite scripture to stand on when things feel heavy.
Mentor: And we know that all things work together for the good of them, that love God to them. That are all, huh? Romans 8 28. That's my one.
J.E. Harrison: Watch your voice. All right. Third question. Most elevated decision you've made in your career.
Mentor: The decision to help lead the third largest African-American museum in the country.
J.E. Harrison: How do you stay spiritually grounded and professionally? Excellent.
Mentor: I eliminate the noise. I eliminate the noise spiritually and professionally,
J.E. Harrison: Love it. If you could send a 15 second voice memo to your younger self, what would you say?
Mentor: you are enough. You are seen, and it gets better from here. Trust me,
J.E. Harrison: I love it. Alright, [00:34:00] so how can our listening audience connect and support Jeff May, Jr.
Mentor: Hey they can definitely visit us@jeffmayjr.com. Visit us at Jeff May, JR oh six on Instagram and just see the movement, see what we have going on, whether it be elevating African-American history with an effort to collect, preserve, and share African American history. Or whether it be through educational consulting, going around the country and telling young people that they're enough, right?
And teaching the teachers and the educators and the administrators how to be good stewards. Over the young lives that walk through their doors and through their districts every single day. So those are two means that I would love to have some conversation with people with. So Jeff May junior.com or they can go to Jeff May Junior oh six at Insta, or just check me out, shoot me an email, let me know how are you doing?
Like what's going on with you at Jeff May [00:35:00] jr@gmail.com.
J.E. Harrison: Jeff, you're absolutely one of my favorite people in the whole wild world, and I'm so grateful that God allowed our paths to cross. Thank you for being a guest on the Elevate Your Life podcast.
Mentor: is my honor. Je, I love you. I appreciate you. I see you. Keep going. [00:36:00]
